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Location: BlogsSean Cullinan    
Posted by: Sean Cullinan 10/14/2008 10:14 PM

Silverlight 2.0 is released for the Windows and Mac!  Great news and great work to Microsoft:

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/10/14/silverlight-2-released.aspx

In our initial investigations Silverlight is missing one very crucial component however.  We have built a core web service to our product line that returns .net datasets that our various clients consume.  This works great for our Windows Mobile, asp.net, WPF, and even an outlook plug-in client that we have built.  Now Silverlight comes along and we don't get the system.data namespace!!  No datasets, no datatables, none of the awesome features that ado.net brought us in the plug in.  Grrr. 

ComponentOne has recognized this weakness and has provided Data for Silverlight.  This of course means creating an alternative web service address and translating our system.data datasets into C1.Data.datasets which is a little inefficient but still works pretty well. 

For the sake of devs everywhere who have extensively baked ado.net into their architecture lets hope MSFT adds the dataset and child objects to Silverlight soon!  I don't really care if it bloats up the plugin a bit, honest I really could care less if the plug-in is 20mb, I just love the idea of cross-platform development using Visual Studio (specifically VB.net)!

Sean

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Re: Silverlight 2.0 released    By Sven on 10/15/2008 2:57 AM
Hello Sean,<br><br>To be honest, I think the consensus these days is that Datasets Are Evil (TM) <br>http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/clr/thread/8c2fa360-4709-4b66-8900-87d499d35ec3/<br><br>Of course you'll also find plenty links from people disagreeing with this idea but from MS' point of view it fits in nicely with the idea that<br>silverlight apps (and RIA apps in general) should access data through the web (web service, either WS or REST) and not through ADO.NET.<br><br>As for not using ADO.NET and simply limiting yourself to returning Datasets from a web service: this been frowned upon for years because it limits the interoperability of a web service to the windows .net platform.<br><br>I'm not saying I completely agree but I'm just looking for reasons why MS have left this out of Silverlight (apart from keeping the plugin size as low as possible)<br><br>Sven

Re: Silverlight 2.0 released    By Sven on 10/15/2008 2:59 AM
sorry about the messed up markup. Don't quite know how that happened.

Re: Silverlight 2.0 released    By Sean on 10/16/2008 1:02 AM
Thanks for the comment Sven. DotNetNuke keeps messing up the markup. Anyway, I've noticed this trend with MSFT away from ado.net. The problem is that years ago datasets were en vogue and so there are tons of applications that are based on them. We made a design choice years ago to use datasets as they buy quite a bit over just returning arrays of objects or other means of getting data. We return in a single call multiple "tables" of data in one dataset, have unique id fields, dynamically add columns etc. that really make datasets the best choice for our model. Obviously the tradeoff is interoperability with non MSFT .net platforms. However, in this case I'm pretty surprised that a Microsoft Platform (Silverlight) would omit this functionality entirely. We can work around it but obviously we would prefer to have all of our clients utilizing the exact same web service for testing purposes. Sean

Re: Silverlight 2.0 released    By Vitaly on 8/28/2009 9:24 PM
Hi guys, here is a solution for you: http://silverlightdataset<br><br>Enjoy your coding

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